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Beyond Order: 12 More Rules For Life

Beyond Order: 12 More Rules For Life

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  • Author：Jordan B. Peterson
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Summary

The sequel to 12 Rules for Life offers further guidance on the periolus path of modern life。

In 12 Rules for Life， clinical psychologist and celebrated professor at Harvard and the University of Toronto Dr。 Jordan B。 Peterson helped millions of readers impose order on the chaos of their lives。 Now， in this bold sequel， Peterson delivers twelve more lifesaving principles for resisting the exhausting toll that our desire to order the world inevitably takes。

In a time when the human will increasingly imposes itself over every sphere of life—from our social structures to our emotional states—Peterson warns that too much security is dangerous。 What’s more， he offers strategies for overcoming the cultural， scientific， and psychological forces causing us to tend toward tyranny， and teaches us how to rely instead on our instinct to find meaning and purpose， even—and especially—when we find ourselves powerless。

While chaos， in excess， threatens us with instability and anxiety， unchecked order can petrify us into submission。 Beyond Order provides a call to balance these two fundamental principles of reality itself， and guides us along the straight and narrow path that divides them。

PRAISE FOR JORDAN PETERSON

“We live in a time when so many young （and not so young） people feel lost 。 。 。 Mr。 Peterson talks about the attitudes that will help find the path。 It is not a politically correct or officially approved path， but it is an intensely practical and yet heightened one: This life you’re living has meaning。”
—PEGGY NOONAN， Wall Street Journal

“Jordan Peterson is universally revered—and feared—for his incredible intellect and emotional insight。”
—DAVE RUBIN， host of The Rubin Report and author of Don’t Burn This Book

“The Peterson way is a harsh way， but it is an idealistic way—and for millions of young men， it turns out to be the perfect antidote to the cocktail of coddling and accusation in which they are raised。”
—DAVID BROOKS， New York Times

“The world needs Jordan Peterson。”
—DOUGLAS MURRAY， author of The Madness of Crowds

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Reviews

Ian ，

Better than the last book

Sam ，

Everyone ripping on the book has obviously not read it。 They take their presuppositions and run with them。 Read 12 rules， read beyond order and actually take in the work。

Brandon Pending ，

Amazing book。 A continuation to the brilliant foundation set in the first 12 Rules by Dr Jordan Peterson。 Yin and Yang with the two books

Will Cobbett ，

After the first book which I was slightly disappointed with because I am a big fan of JP， this book was what I expected from the first。 Everything I didn’t like from the first was removed and the book seemed to flow much better。 Again each chapter would vary with how much I enjoyed the story of it， but overall I found myself far more engrossed。 It may have also helped that it was via audiobook

Anne Parrish ，

I liked these 12 rules more than the first 12; good stuff！

Todd G ，

I’m not going to say much on this other than Peterson again writes 1000% common sense。 It’s so refreshing to see someone point out all the BS in the world today and how to work around it， to ignore it or， of that’s not possible， how to deal with it so it doesn’t ruin your life or the lives of others。So many downplay Peterson， making comments such as “he’s a druggie” or “he’s in lockstep with the right” or other ridiculousness。 One thing we ALL need to remember: just because someone doesn’t agree I’m not going to say much on this other than Peterson again writes 1000% common sense。 It’s so refreshing to see someone point out all the BS in the world today and how to work around it， to ignore it or， of that’s not possible， how to deal with it so it doesn’t ruin your life or the lives of others。So many downplay Peterson， making comments such as “he’s a druggie” or “he’s in lockstep with the right” or other ridiculousness。 One thing we ALL need to remember: just because someone doesn’t agree with you， feel the same as you， doesn’t mean they are an idiot， moron， racist， homophone， misogynist， etc。 We all have got to STOP talking down to each other and LISTEN to what is said instead。 Peterson， in various ways， explains why。 All his books have done is make me even more interested in what he has to say 。。。more

James Adams ，

When he’s doing science and psychology I’m gripped， when he gets bogged down in symbolism and religion he loses my attention。 Partly revelatory and powerful， part waffle， but it’s worth it for the good stuff。

Harry Lee ，

Another good book from JBP and this has been helpful as a guide to me as I navigate life。What’s one area？ Things are not fair， yes。 You do your best but others may not listen。 Do you become resentful？ Don’t。 Continue working towards the ideal。

Emma ，

Always amazing， I can't believe that Jordan Peterson wrote the majority of this book on the road or from hospital waiting rooms/beds。 Peterson is incredibly articulate and has a way of putting concepts into words that illuminate undercurrents of reality and enable one to focus on what really matters。 I love the rule format and find the stories of his clients and family very interesting。 Very compelling and inspiring。 Always amazing， I can't believe that Jordan Peterson wrote the majority of this book on the road or from hospital waiting rooms/beds。 Peterson is incredibly articulate and has a way of putting concepts into words that illuminate undercurrents of reality and enable one to focus on what really matters。 I love the rule format and find the stories of his clients and family very interesting。 Very compelling and inspiring。 。。。more

Xiomara ，

Me gusto muchoEs fácil de leer en comparación con el anterior。 Sus argumentos muestran un análisis más profundo de temas triviales y te permiten comprender las problemáticas actuales

Stephen Inoue ，

The book ends with a litany of thank yous and a feeling that the Peterson family has been thru hell with medical and mental health issues。 I hope he recovers as I appreciate his writing。His use of explaining what is really going on in Harry Potter and children fairy tales left me with many aha moments。 I wish he would write a children fairy tale book explainer for older kids as they would love his insights。The book is full of practical advice for living your life。 His overall theme is to be a po The book ends with a litany of thank yous and a feeling that the Peterson family has been thru hell with medical and mental health issues。 I hope he recovers as I appreciate his writing。His use of explaining what is really going on in Harry Potter and children fairy tales left me with many aha moments。 I wish he would write a children fairy tale book explainer for older kids as they would love his insights。The book is full of practical advice for living your life。 His overall theme is to be a positive， productive person that shows gratitude to others。 After the last few years of Trump & Covid it is a message we all need to here。 。。。more

WanderingOdin ，

Entirely too much focus was given to the Christian Bible， its stories and what we can learn （if anything） from their interpretations。 I need someone like Sam Harris to read this book and translate it for me into secularist。

Melissa H。 ，

This is-per Jordan style-a meandering discussion of principles for living and the philosophies that underpin them。 The rules are excellent and push you to abandon resentment， expect nothing & do everything you can to better yourself and others。 The rule on marriage and intimacy was spot on & one I wanted to send to everyone。

Laurence ，

Stand up straight， get a haircut， don't chew with your mouth open。 But seriously， take responsibility for yourself。 Don't let others drive what is right or good for you。 Find some purpose in your life and Don't float aimlessly on the Breeze。 Take a position and stick to it。 Accept that bad things happen but are manageable。 Stand up straight， get a haircut， don't chew with your mouth open。 But seriously， take responsibility for yourself。 Don't let others drive what is right or good for you。 Find some purpose in your life and Don't float aimlessly on the Breeze。 Take a position and stick to it。 Accept that bad things happen but are manageable。 。。。more

Marcin Czarkowski ，

If you have watched Peterson's Maps of Meaning and Personality lectures on YouTube， you won't get a lot of new stuff from this book。 Don't get me wrong， this book is really good （even if quite chaotic at times）， but as a diehard fan， I expected something more。 If you have watched Peterson's Maps of Meaning and Personality lectures on YouTube， you won't get a lot of new stuff from this book。 Don't get me wrong， this book is really good （even if quite chaotic at times）， but as a diehard fan， I expected something more。 。。。more

Davor ，

It's ok I guess， just the previous one is much much better。 It's ok I guess， just the previous one is much much better。 。。。more

Anthony Camacho ，

I devoured this within the last two days。 That being said - this book was better then the first one。 It has some actual genuine life advice。 He included anecdotes about his experiences being an actual psychotherapist that were quite interesting to read about。 If you received value from this book - then that's great。 Where this book suffers is from a handful of key points。 Firstly， this book easily could've and should've been edited from it's 400 page pit to at least HALF of that。 He goes off on I devoured this within the last two days。 That being said - this book was better then the first one。 It has some actual genuine life advice。 He included anecdotes about his experiences being an actual psychotherapist that were quite interesting to read about。 If you received value from this book - then that's great。 Where this book suffers is from a handful of key points。 Firstly， this book easily could've and should've been edited from it's 400 page pit to at least HALF of that。 He goes off on tangents about Christianity and uses a ridiculous amount of big timey academic words just for fluff。 Could've just said prevented but he chooses to use big time college words like "stultified" Second point -This is the larger issue i have。 Jordan talks about about meaning and stories。 One of his running themes is the stories we tell ourselves。 （Slaying the dragon is his favorite tale） he claims he doesn't have an ideology。 He even includes a whole chapter devoted to this and another where he explains that you should never see the world and issues as single "monotheistic" problems and issues。 Yet - he does the exact same thing with his own ideology。 Yes my angry JP fans - Jordan has his own opinions that he claims are objective。 Who's stories deserve to stick and whose have meaning？ He also devotes one page to communism and nazism claiming they were practically the same thing lol。 Third point - （mainly because I don't care for writing an entire essay about these issues） Not really a point but a brief interrogation about a comment JP writes 1/3rd into the book。 Jordan complains that we for the last 50 years， have spent too much time "clamoring" about rights。 If that isn't the smoking gun of his entire perspective about these issues then I don't know what is。 JP is a mega-white boomer pretending he isn't just regurgitating Victor Frankel's psychotherapy。 Genuinely would love to debate any point of this novel with people if they come for me in the comments。 Otherwise this novel was 2/5 at best。 。。。more

Chris ，

I'm convinced that all the people that hate JBP have never read any of his work。 They have not done their due diligence on him and their opinions are solely based on media hit pieces。 There's a lot in this book that you might disagree with， and he does get into the weeds in places， but none of it is controversial or hateful or "right wing" in any way。 That's laughable。。。unless you think "get your shit together and take responsibility for your life" is a right-wing idea。 If that's true， it says a I'm convinced that all the people that hate JBP have never read any of his work。 They have not done their due diligence on him and their opinions are solely based on media hit pieces。 There's a lot in this book that you might disagree with， and he does get into the weeds in places， but none of it is controversial or hateful or "right wing" in any way。 That's laughable。。。unless you think "get your shit together and take responsibility for your life" is a right-wing idea。 If that's true， it says a lot about the left-wing camp。Read the book。 It's worth it。 Make your own decisions。 。。。more

Jakub ，

it's certainly a worthwhile sequel to the original rulebook。 jordan brings forward several key aspects of the applied subjective experience that are interwoven throughout the entirety of the book in such a way， that it gives us an almost complete portrayal of reality。 some rules are more important and thorough than others， but it was the same with the previous book， and it is to be expected。 what's unfortunate sometimes， however， is that jordan gets side-tracked to such an extent that only at th it's certainly a worthwhile sequel to the original rulebook。 jordan brings forward several key aspects of the applied subjective experience that are interwoven throughout the entirety of the book in such a way， that it gives us an almost complete portrayal of reality。 some rules are more important and thorough than others， but it was the same with the previous book， and it is to be expected。 what's unfortunate sometimes， however， is that jordan gets side-tracked to such an extent that only at the end of the chapter do you realise that the rule has been addressed very bluntly and poorly。 still， having a read through the account - of how defining mythical stories are to our everyday experience - is beneficial。 。。。more

Thomas Porras Michelangeli ，

Eye-opening in so many ways。。。

Ricardo Moreno Mauro ，

Bueno， luego de un buen tiempo terminé este libro。 12 reglas， que en realidad no son reglas son mas que nada sugerencias de como actuar en un mundo cambiante。 Por eso su nombre， como proceder y aceptar las injusticias de esta vida， como lograr inspiración， respeto por uno mismo， la importancia de mantener el romanticismo y de que el sufrimiento es el maestro que nos enseña a vvir。Personalmente me gusta Jordan Peterson， lo encuentro un psicólogo con muy buenas ideas， y en lo personal este libro m Bueno， luego de un buen tiempo terminé este libro。 12 reglas， que en realidad no son reglas son mas que nada sugerencias de como actuar en un mundo cambiante。 Por eso su nombre， como proceder y aceptar las injusticias de esta vida， como lograr inspiración， respeto por uno mismo， la importancia de mantener el romanticismo y de que el sufrimiento es el maestro que nos enseña a vvir。Personalmente me gusta Jordan Peterson， lo encuentro un psicólogo con muy buenas ideas， y en lo personal este libro me ayudó a entender algunos aspectos de mi actuar。 。。。more

John Mutisya ，

This review has been hidden because it contains spoilers。 To view it， click here。 + Ideas are more clearly presented in this book than the previous 12 rules。 Anecdotes and analogies are precise and extremely helpful in understanding the point being put across。+ Very many practical steps to begin building a plan， a reference point once the plan has began to be effected。

Richard Guthrie ，

Jordan Peterson is neither succinct nor easily accessible。 His words， both deeply philosophical and profoundly introspective， demand work and stamina on the part of the reader。 But， as he articulates within， perhaps a heavy load is what we should be trying to carry。 For the reader that perseveres， his words contain essential wisdom from an intellectual luminary that transcends the common understanding of our universe。 And there is much to be gained from his wisdom。 This book starts with a note o Jordan Peterson is neither succinct nor easily accessible。 His words， both deeply philosophical and profoundly introspective， demand work and stamina on the part of the reader。 But， as he articulates within， perhaps a heavy load is what we should be trying to carry。 For the reader that perseveres， his words contain essential wisdom from an intellectual luminary that transcends the common understanding of our universe。 And there is much to be gained from his wisdom。 This book starts with a note of his personal travails and is more lucid and flowing as a consequence。 It soon moves into the abstract， however， as he reasons through the next 12 rules of his longer list。 Not surprisingly， these ones are perhaps less fundamental than the first 12， but illuminating nevertheless。 This is a book that you read because there are nuggets within that can change your life if you allow them。 It's not a gimmick but a rich literary tapestry full of meaning。Respect。 。。。more

Robert Sadaty ，

Outstanding。 One of the few great thinkers of our day。 I recommend this book to EVERYONE。

Jack Zuber ，

The book was worth it。 At times， particularly the first quarter of the book， the writing seemed somewhat convoluted and prolix。 Although there were times when that type of writing was necessary to pinpoint what he was going for。 Generally， Follow rules unless when doing so you undermine the purpose of those rules。The fool is the precursor to the redeemer。Just because happiness is not appropriate at a funeral does not mean that its not valuable as an emotion。 If you betray yourself， you begin to The book was worth it。 At times， particularly the first quarter of the book， the writing seemed somewhat convoluted and prolix。 Although there were times when that type of writing was necessary to pinpoint what he was going for。 Generally， Follow rules unless when doing so you undermine the purpose of those rules。The fool is the precursor to the redeemer。Just because happiness is not appropriate at a funeral does not mean that its not valuable as an emotion。 If you betray yourself， you begin to lose meaning。 On the avoidance of setting goals and desires:When you decide and figure out what you actually want， in the same stroke you also figure out how you can fail。 Now， after deciding what you want， if you do indeed end up failing， you know that you will face the responsibility of that failure completely。 We unconsciously recognize that if we remain ambiguous with what we want， we can always skew and rationalize the results in a way to show that we did not fail， or at least， it is not our fault。 。。。more

Ryan Rice ，

A notch below 12 Rules for Life。 Reading a summary of the rules would likely suffice here。

Mr B ，

Jordan does not realise the positive impact he has had on the individual during this time of collectivism madness。He has helped me personally sort my life out and deal with suffering in a much better way。 For that I am eternally greatful。

Zora ，

I was certain JBP’s second batch of rules would not be as good as his first。 I was wrong。 Equally as good。

Fr。 Doyle ，

Reviewing a writer of Peterson's caliber is perhaps both daunting and presumptuous; however， I hope that anyone who reads this will not begrudge me an opinion on the phenomenon。 The author's writing style is extraordinary， and his learning is matched by few contemporaries; I find myself impressed both by his last work '12 Rules for Life' and this new work， which adds an additional 12 rules to his repertoire of tips for a meaningfully successful life。 I confess that I found Peterson's first set o Reviewing a writer of Peterson's caliber is perhaps both daunting and presumptuous; however， I hope that anyone who reads this will not begrudge me an opinion on the phenomenon。 The author's writing style is extraordinary， and his learning is matched by few contemporaries; I find myself impressed both by his last work '12 Rules for Life' and this new work， which adds an additional 12 rules to his repertoire of tips for a meaningfully successful life。 I confess that I found Peterson's first set of rules to be more exceptional than the present collection， but that is perhaps to be expected of rules that may well be in the 13th – 24th place in range of importance。 While I find myself in agreement with much of Peterson's practical advice （from honesty to gratitude）， I wholeheartedly disagree with what I understand his 'mythical' and 'evolutionary' interpretation of spiritual realities to be。 God is by no means a mythical construct invented by rationally primitive humans as a means to survive the chaos around them。 The devil， his minions， and diabolical realities such as demonic possession are also not merely psychological realities， but real forces at war with themselves， God， and humans。 Meaning may only be superimposed into the framework of chaos， because meaning actually exists。 To understand human rationality and the order that does exist in the universe as a fluke， a random accident， a one in a trillion trillion possibility is to truly believe a practical impossibility。 While Dr。 Peterson's psychological analysis is extraordinarily sound， he lacks a metaphysical philosophy to adequately explain what he observes scientifically。 It is my hope and prayer that the love he professes for biblical truths and the 'mythical' Christ， may lead him to discover the actual man who truly rose from the dead because his Person is consubstantially one with God the Father and Creator of all truth， meaning， and life itself。 。。。more

Michael Cawley ，

Excellent exploration of order， self-discipline， empathy， resiliency， personal responsibility， and gratitude。

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